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Ich zitiere http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/08/letters_0810/:
I teach English to Chinese Comp Sci students at what is considered a top regional university over here. Out of 30 students in the special low-entry-bar class for rich kids (I hate these, but they make up the bulk of my assigned classes -- regular classes with real students are quite a bit better), I could point out possibly two who are actually interested in computers. The rest have been pushed into it by their parents who want their child to be "rich like Bill Gates".
They have no interest in computers and hence little ability beyond punching in Textbook Java and C++ and the only thing they know about the global computer industry is that Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he owns Microsoft. I'm not kidding -- that really is it. I tried to build an entire Oral English unit around discussing current tech-industry issues (history, future directions, open- v's closed-source -- pros and cons of both models in different situations, computer security -- SPAM, viruses, spyware, and so on) and it fell flat on account of I actually expected them to spend an hour a week doing research on the internet (I even gave them the keywords to plug into the search engine) and learn something. They don't know and they made it quite clear that they don't care.
Who are Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak? They don't know. Linus Torvalds? Richard Stallman? Don't know, don't care. Who is Larry Ellison? Never heard of him (this is a several months after he did a major -- and heavily-press-covered -- tour of China). Keep in mind these are Comp.Sci. majors -- I wouldn't expect a lay-person to recognise all those names, though a good number of lay people -- even here in China -- would at least get the Larry Ellison one.
Funniest of all, they had absolutely no idea who Steve Ballmer is (I enlightened them with the MonkeyBoyDevelopers music video).
I had to refuse to assess the class as in 18 weeks they had learnt absolutely nothing. I even had the departmental director sit in on a few of my classes to check if it was my teaching, but he could only shrug and say-without-explicitly-stating-it "what do you expect, this course is just here to make us money and to fill the government-set quota on Comp-sci graduates for this year."
The number of graduates in ANY field in China is set by quota. The trouble a colleague in the physics department had in getting a student who was actively disrupting classes removed was astronomical. She wanted him out. The other students wanted him out, the department wanted him out. The university administration wanted to meet this year's quota for physics graduates.
Wenn das stimmt, was dieser Englischlehrer hier schreibt, kann es nicht weit her sein mit der Qualität dieser Hacker-Brigaden, wenn sie denn in China ausgebildet wurden... --
"It takes love over gold, and mind over matter" -- Dire Straits
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dass bald schon in der öffentlichkeit gründe gegen nordkorea publiziert würden, war ja zu erwarten - die achse des bösen lässt grüssen ;) .
aber ob das jetzt nur polit-FUD oder fundierte information ist, wer weiss...
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lol wenn man die mittelalterliche technik in nordkorea anschaut glaub ich nicht das die hacker brigaden haben *rofl*
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Absolut. Ich behaupte Nordkorea ist dazu absolut unfähig. Die wären ja wohl froh wenn sie 600 Informatiker insgesamt hätten... (Gut vielleicht übertreibe ich, aber einem Land das jährlich 250'000-1'000'000 Hungertote hat glaube ich einfach nicht dass die sowas fertigbringen)
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"The more prohibitions there are, The poorer the people will be"
-- Lao Tse
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ich möchte auch mal so gut hacken können wie ein Scriptkiddie - um das zu erreichen lese ich regelmässig CHIP. Die bringen immer geheime Tipps und Tricks, die nicht mal Microsoft kennt.
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Von Anonymer Feigling am Wednesday 13. October 2004, 12:59 MEW (#5)
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jaja du bist der grösste :-)
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ich habe nie behaupted ich sei der grösste?? wie kommst du jetzt darauf?
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(dumb)-"unix-user" Du kennst Dich bestimmt mal mit internationalen Systemen aus. Na dann, mach mal...
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So -
oder so.
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Was hast Du im Sinn mit guten Hacker-Kenntnissen?
Webseiten knacken oder geniale Sofware entwickeln?
* . .
Das war's, weg!
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Von Anonymer Feigling am Wednesday 13. October 2004, 14:55 MEW (#11)
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switchon(sinnfuerhumor);
merke: nicht alle sind so ernst wie du ;)
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:)) - "switchon(sinnfuerhumor)." Klar, ich verstehe doch weder Chinesisch (ni hau!) noch Koreanich (langfing-fang-wau!). * . .
Das war's, weg!
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